Scam Complaints - Truth or Lie?

There are many people claiming that HHO conversion kits are a scam, and there is even a video showing it, backed by a website. Watch the video here, and see all the claims for yourself:

The creator of the video definitely goes through every possible claim and proves it's a scam. However, he is skipping some key facts. Here are his claims and the real truth behind them.

Claim: There is an army of affiliates who say they converted their car, but they're lying and only trying to get people to buy these kits so they can get a commission.

Truth: Half true. There are indeed hundreds of affiliates who promote these kits in order to earn a commission from every sale they generate. Many are lying about the fact that they used the system, but some really used it. Also, the ones that lie rely on many verifiable claims from users of the HHO conversion kits.

Claim: Water4Gas and RunYourCarWithWater.com offer affiliate tools to help promote the scam.

Truth: Again, half true. The two kit sellers do provide affiliate tools to help others promote their kits, but there is nothing wrong with it. Thousands of companies provide an affiliate program and affiliate tools. In fact, well known companies, such as Dell, HP, and eBay, thrive from affiliates who help them promote their products. Why would the "Run your Car on Water" kit sellers be different?

Claim: If those conversion kits really worked, everyone would buy it and have it running in the car.

Truth: Completely true. However, some people try to deceive others by making them believe these kits don't work, so people don't buy it. In fact, these kits are one of the most popular products on the internet with the lowest refund rates. Some people need an extra proof.

Claim: The information page of RunYourCarWithWater.com is deceptive and showing a sale that always expires on tomorrow's date.

Truth: Half true. Go to any store, like BestBuy, and you will see sales that expire soon. The salesmen always try to make you believe that the sale for what you want is expiring soon. They may be deceiving, but they are just doing their job.

Claim: Affiliates are spamming YouTube with identical videos promoting HHO conversion kits.

Truth: Sad, but true. Affiliates are trying to jump on the bandwagon by spamming YouTube with those identical videos. Usually, these affiliates are the ones who lie about their success, and they are the ones who give Water-Fuel kits their bad reputation.

Claim: The laws of thermodynamics prove that this system cannot make any measurable improvement in the fuel consumption.

Truth: Again, half true. The laws of thermodynamics definitely prove that these systems cannot produce more energy than the energy invested in electrolysis. However, this system is not replacing gasoline, it is helping it. The kits take energy from the car's battery and give it to the engine. Many people testify that these kits do improve fuel efficiency and mileage, so the claim is void.

Claim: Honda just released a hydrogen-fueled vehicle which does not require gasoline, so there is no big oil conspiracy.

Truth: Honda did release such car. The hydrogen fuel market is very undeveloped yet, and the infrastructure for such cars is not ready yet in the majority of countries. Looking green is great, but hydrogen run cars are not the perfect solution, yet.

Claim: These kits are a complete scam.

Truth: Watch this video from the Today Tonight show and decide for yourself:

As you can see, HHO conversion kits are definitely not scams. If someone is claiming this, HE is the liar. All these kits have a very lax refund policy, and low refund rates are a definite proof that these kits do work and do not do any harm.

Update:

Here is an email that was received from the video maker in response to this page:

"Hi,

I'm the guy who did that video on youtube exposing the HHO scam for what it is.

I see you are touting the Reuters report of the Japanese water car as proof of HHO???

Do you really believe this or are you scamming to?

You do know how that car works don't you?

There is *no* electrolysis involved and no "HHO".

The water reacts with a metal in the "fuel tank" to release hydrogen which is then fed into a hydrogen fuelcell to create electricity that drives the motors.

What magic reaction can release the water from hydrogen *without* electrolysis?

Well swat up on your basic science.

Lithium, sodium and a number of other metals will react with water to release hydrogen gas and form a hydroxide solution. Here's a video that shows you just what happens:

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=pizqEbbDE_A

Please don't try to use that video to suggest that these HHO scams actually work - it simply shows your own ignorance of the science involved.

I trust you'll have the good grace to publish this email in its entirety on the same page you feature my video.

Regards

Bruce Simpson"

Here is the video Bruce was referring to:

Bruce is correct, and a mistake has been made on our side. We apologize. This video is indeed about a car using alkali metals, which is indeed a good way to extract hydrogen out of water. However, lithium and sodium aren't readily available everywhere, and there are certain safety issues regarding these metals (they are very reactive).

As shown in the Today Tonight show and by thousands of other users, Run your Car on Water kits definitely work without any safety issues. Saving 20% on gas money is not something you can just ignore.

If you want to save money on gas without any conversion kit, it's also possible, using Pocket the Difference - the guide for saving money on gas with behavior changing.